Hayes Farmyard Development

Plans for housing on part of Hayes Farm have naturally caused a lot of concern, and the detailed proposals have just been submitted to Bromley Council.

Hayes Farm is already due to close following the retirement of the farmer, the farm having been a part of Hayes life for centuries. The new plans are to build nine homes only on the area currently occupied by the existing buildings, many of which are dilapidated. The farmhouse, a listed building, is unaffected and there are no plans to build on the open farmland.

Proposals for Hayes Farm

Many objections already made centre on the future of the wider site, which is not part of the application and is green belt which the council is committed to protecting. The proposals for the farmyard area won’t affect the status of that surrounding land.

As your local councillors we are taking a keen interest in the plans, and will be looking in detail at the proposals, with an eye to protect the green belt and openness of this part of Hayes.

Outlines of the new and existing buildings

The full plans can be seen here.

 

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20 thoughts on “Hayes Farmyard Development”

  1. I feel the building of these homes will have numerous negative impacts on the local area.
    Development of the area means a loss of historic green space.
    It puts pressure on the already stretched local schools and services.
    Less green land for heavy rains and run off leading to flooding during heavy rains.
    Additional pressure on the small access road alr day overused by the School and local residents.

    1. But they explicitly say that the new development will not stretch onto the existing green space, which is legally protected by green belt legislation. The new homes will only replace the spot taken by pre-existing buildings that are largely now dilapidated, and the farmhouse itself is a listed building and will remain untouched. It will make better use of land that has already been developed on. People need housing urgently, and Bromley is a spacious London borough. As for local services, this is only nine new homes. There is already a new Secondary school opened in the borough and a new site is being sought for a new Primary school as well, very close to the vicinity of Hayes (the Westmoreland site being unsuitable admittedly). The only concern I would have is whether the housing is affordable builds – which is what is desperately needed.

  2. It will open the flood gates to more development and eventually there will be nothing left ,all because of greed ,look at the Bromley common site ,nothing is sacred to Bromley council they just rub their hands together, I bet half the councillors don’t live in the area or grew up in the area ,just another money making scheme, without looking into the impact of it.

    1. “nothing is sacred to Bromley council” the council is committed to defending our Green Belt, and in recent years has gone as far as the High Court to do it. We will carry on doing so even in the face of the Mayor for London’s plan to force the building of over 1,500 homes per year in the borough.

      “they just rub their hands together” – the council does not own this land so I don’t follow why it would be ‘rubbing its hands together’.

      Finally I would note that Cllr. Arthur and I did grow up in the area. Thank you.

      1. If you are concerned about the London Mayors creation of homes then you should only ever consider reasonably densely, affordable developments, not the proposed luxury houses that no homeless and very few young people can ever hope to afford. Only allow the creation of homes that people are demanding. Million pound houses will not clear the London street.

  3. Im horrified at the plans with Hayes Street Farm just hearybroken im a resident of george lane and have aeen hw extending this has ruined hayes the thought that that beautiful farm and feilds would go to housing an overstretched area already is horrifying

    1. They’ve explicitly said the new builds won’t affect green space at all, and legally aren’t allowed to. The farmhouse won’t be knocked down and the new homes will be built in place of buildings that are largely dilapidated. We need more housing – whether this approach is the right one or not (the houses look expensive) is another thing, but needs must.

      1. Yes, that is unfortunate that these proposals are for houses that only a millionaire can afford… what Bromley needs (and London altogether) is more affordable housing.

  4. I agree that these proposed new builds will have a negative impact on the community of Hayes. There has been many new and very pricey homes already built in the past 2 years with the West Common Road development, The Green in Bourne Vale and the development of the care Home near Hayes Wood Avenue and the development of apartments on the Baston School site. Now propsals for Hayes Farm. When will it stop?? More pressure on roads, parking, already fully doctor surgeries in the area, pre schools, schools etc. I lived in 108 Hayes Lane for 20 years and suffered from rain water flooding many times. Mainly because homes now have concrete driveways and excess rainwater flowing down onto the road with poor wastewater pipes unable to cope with excessive water. By building more homes with driveways on what was soil areas will add more water into the existing system causing flooding further along the road. I still live in Hayes.

  5. Oh come on people who are we kidding, of course its all about slowly but surely building houses on as much of this land as they can manage. All cleverly wrapped up in 9 house blocks by the way which just happens to be 1 house short of them having to provide a percentage to social housing. The estate has been poorly managed and left to fall into disrepair so as to give that as one of the reasons for new development. The fields have been over populated and wrecked due to over grazing, and there has been no field management or care taken on any of the open land even though DEFRA list them as receiving grants for sections of this land. I’m sure all local residents remember the Blue Circle land on the other side of Bromley Common Liveries, all owned by Rookery estate, all green belt and now all built on with hundreds of houses. Whilst I understand that there has to be regard to lack of housing and councils should be finding ways in which to deal with this, it really is a nonsense to pretend that these properties will have any impact on that.

    1. Couldn’t agree more. People currently managing Rookery Estates play a strategic game and know that by chipping away in a tactical fashion, most people will fail to grasp or be unable to articulate their objections to what they are doing. RE is a private unlimited company whose role is to lease and manage the land, not to be a provider of housing and line their own pockets from selling Bromley’s conservation assets.

    2. Rookery Estates did not own the Blue Circle site. It was owned by Blue Circle ( the clue is in the name) and sold to a local developer. Hayes St Farm was let out to the recently retired tenant farmer for over 50 years . It was not managed by Rookery.

  6. Hayes Farm keeps Hayes as a Village which not only me but the new young families love..l just think its dreadful how underhanded Bromley Council has been but then it’s all about Money…
    Also has anyone given a thought to the wildlife ,the Owls,Bats etc ..
    Shame on you Bromley Council ..

    1. Could you please explain how you feel Bromley Council has been ‘underhand’? This land is owned by Rookery Estates, not the council. Bromley’s role is only to assess the proposals and decide whether to permit or refuse them as the planning authority, a process which is currently underway.

      1. Could you please explain as a Councillor and one who has his eye firmly on protecting the green belt, how there are dozens of illegal buildings already erected and some still being built on this land we are discussing. The council have had 2 years worth of complaints and yet all those buildings remain. Maybe “underhand” shouldn’t be the word but how exactly would you describe a council who has blatantly ignored all of its own laws for so long?

      2. Without knowing which particular structures you’re referring to it’s difficult to comment. If you could let me have details of which structures and when you submitted the complaints I will follow these up.

  7. The current site is just an eyesore , the only downside is they’re not building affordable housing on the site. Hopefully granting permission for that part of the site will make it easier to have permission granted for affordable housing on the unused fields in the future.

    Surely using the land for housing has got to be a better use for it than some grotty boot fair once a month.

  8. Thank you Councillor Neil Reddin for offering to follow these comments up. I cannot upload maps onto this site so I shall forward the details you have requested by email.

    Addressing the eyesore issue, I agree it is a pit but the owners have purposefully made it an eyesore exactly for this reason, and whilst boot fairs are not the most glamorous marketplaces, thousands of people do find them an enjoyable, social economic event that is within affordability.

  9. I personally think this is a positive development for Hayes and feel these beautiful homes would make great additions to the area for aspiring families to live in. I would love to live in one of those properties, whether I can afford to or not, and Hayes could do with more!

    In terms of character and taste, I would rather see small bespoke housing developments built in Hayes than enormous bland estates, and so this approach fits with my view of Hayes as a whole.

    Shouts of affordable housing are great soundbites, until the reality of such creations come knocking on your door. What does it even mean to build affordable housing in a market that is over-priced? The reason we are in this mess is because we have a shortage of housing, among many other reasons, and cannot be solved by this particular development whether affordable housing is built or not. So please, let’s leave this argument on the doorstep.

    With regards to history, by keeping the existing farm house and by building new houses in keeping with the farm house’s design and heritage, nothing is lost, only enhanced. What’s more, the fields behind remain greenbelt and protected and are far more important than what is being proposed here.

    And so, whilst the idea of a local farm is nice, what is more important is the woodland and green spaces that we all use. Hayes is defined more by this than some farm outbuildings.

    After all is said and done, Hayes would not be Hayes at all if development of land into homes were not considered in the past. Let’s remember this when debating the pros and cons of change.

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